That was intense...this is big...could you see my jaw dropping?"

The Affair

Those comments peppered Matt Drudge's conversation right after he emerged from taping an interview with ex-Arkansas trooper L.D. Brown in Washington Saturday for broadcast later that night on his Fox TV show. Brown was repeating for Drudge what he'd said about the torrid affair he'd witnessed between Hillary Clinton and White House Deputy Counsel Vincent Foster, alleged "suicide" victim. He had earlier spoken before an audience of 4,000 who had gathered at the pro-impeachment rally four hours earlier. But Drudge never asked the next, stake-doubling question, as NewsMax did: "What did the President know and when did he know it?"

Not only was Bill Clinton aware his wife was sleeping with Vince Foster, Brown told NewsMax, but Vince and Hillary had been passionate in front of the President on more than one occasion. "Once Bill and one of his long-time lovers were having dinner with her husband, Hillary and Vince and Lisa Foster," Brown tells NewsMax. "The three couples had been given the bottom floor of the restaurant all to themselves and the wine was flowing. By the end of the evening Bill and his lover and Vince and Hillary were being openly sexual with each other." Brown was the only other person present on that occasion and describes for NewsMax how the tipsy sixsome paired off on a walk from the restaurant to a private house.

"Lisa Foster and the husband of Bill's lover walked ahead in clear deference to the others. Vince and Hillary and Bill and his lover then paired off. Both couples were kissing and hugging. Vince would have his arm around Hillary feeling her breast, or her ass, and Bill and his girlfriend were going at it too."

Brown added that on another occasion the same three couples were together at the Governor's mansion and, after several glasses of wine, "Vince and Hillary and Bill and his lover started kissing and fondling in front of each other." Brown not only witnessed the physical affection between Vince and Hillary and Bill and his lover during the 1980s, but also listened as Hillary talked to him about her affair with Vince Foster during late-night chats at the Governor's mansion. Brown, who was in a troubled first marriage himself at the time, recalls: "I would talk to Hillary about my uncertainty of where my marriage was heading, about the wrongness of adultery and my guilty feelings. Hillary would tell me not to worry, and that sometimes you had to go outside your marriage to get what you needed."

Brown said it was always understood that Bill and Hillary's marriage was nothing more than a partnership in power. "You never saw them touch or kiss, even when one of them was leaving on a trip."

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The Death

The death of Vince Foster has been talked about more than any other conspiracy of the 20th Century.

There are people who believe that Foster was killed to prevent him from exposing some wrongdoing of the Clintons. Others believe he killed himself because of the pressures caused by working in Washington, D.C.

Robert Goetzman: FBI agent

Debra von Trapp: computer surveillance expert during George Bush's administration

RG: "We did him! We did him!"

DT: "Did who?"

RG: "Vince Foster."

DT "What do you mean?"

RG "We did him!"

DT: "Well, where did you do him?"

RG: "Well, we did him somewhere else, but we dumped him in a queer park to send Clinton and his queer wife a message!"

11 p.m., July 20, 1993